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in particular when he put together the function dell funkadelic band he was making album after album to try to hit it big and hit the gold with it. so in that sense the happiness for him actually exists in the pursuit. >> and i think that's true with everybody in that none of these people are resting on their laurels. they're always finding ways to improve what they do. >> well i couldn't help but think of some other overachievers as i was going through this -- >> toure. >> not including toure. >> are you think being me? >> lance armstrong came up and the idea that there are some people out there who want to win at all costs, and i'm wondering if you identified any bad traits in overachievers that lead them to maybe have some kind of well sociopathy that allows hem to get ahead but at a cost? >> go ahead. >> i don't really think in our case -- we researched everybody very carefully and we were really -- we chose people that we felt were -- did so well and also were not -- did not get there through backbiting walking over people to succeed. >> we didn't interview any
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